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Episode 1 · 2026-05-15

Using Interactive Conversations to Solve "Boring" Problems

with Harry Gottlieb

Harry argues that solving complex problems requires shifting from competitive conflict to cooperative teamwork focused on shared goals and interactive social engagement

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show notes

These are my live notes from the conversation with Harry. He is shifting my perspective on how we approach business and society. It is not about the win, it is about the shared ascent.

  • The Cage Match vs. The Mountain: Most systems are set up like a cage match where one side has to lose for the other to win. Harry argues that real problem solving should be like climbing a mountain together. The only way you actually win is if everyone makes it up and down alive.
  • The Power of the Interactive Conversation Interface: This is his secret sauce. Whether it is a trivia game or choosing health insurance, the goal is to take boring and complicated topics and make them simple and engaging. It is about moving the user from a passive receiver to an active participant.
  • The Entrepreneurial Muscle: You do not study to be an entrepreneur; you build the muscle by doing. His advice for young people is to avoid worrying about the title and instead identify a specific human pain to solve on a small scale.
  • Strong Eyes, Big Ears: This is a brilliant framework for founders. You need a strong vision (eyes) but you must be a world-class listener (ears). The biggest mistake is having the evidence to pivot but being too stubborn to change course.
  • The Pivot that Saved Everything: He was three months away from shutting down and used his own half a million dollar dividend check to bet on the technology for Jackbox Games. It was a crash landing turned into a success because he did not let go of a good idea.
  • Deliberative Democracy: His work with Unify America is fascinating. He is using civic assemblies to prove that if you start with shared goals rather than divisive solutions, people from opposite backgrounds can find common ground.
  • Education is Expansion: College should be about expanding your horizons and learning to see the world through different lenses like biology or physics. In an AI world, the most in-demand people will be those who can decide what actually matters.
  • The Role of Comedy: It is a tool for attention. If people are laughing, they are paying attention. However, the fun has to be organic to the mission and not just a coat of sugar on a bad product.